> whats this mean > > is someone saying rm'ing /dev/nit and hacking mknod out of the kernel is better > than just taking nit out of the kernel? Does seem a bit silly doesn't it? Personally I'd prefer to spend my time securing the system against penetration in the first place logging what happens once someone does get in that worring about removing services that make it harder to attack other people's systems. Cheers, Proff